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She and Grant agreed on his backstory as an academic whose heyday was in the ’80s, when double denim and aviator glasses were in vogue.

While he tried to project a youthful and sporty image, with his aviator glasses and sports cars, his actual performance presented a rather different, more tragic archetype: the aging, deteriorating father who refuses to pass the torch.

Then he slipped on his aviator glasses and added: “But I’m not sure about Dark Brandon.”

Mr. Snyder was distinguished by his signature tinted aviator glasses, his barely readable handwriting, his Brooklyn accent and his temper.

When Carl Lentz co-founded Hillsong Church New York in 2010, he emerged as a media spectacle known particularly for his unconventional look: tattoo sleeves, body piercings, Supreme sweatshirts, sagging pants, snapbacks and aviator glasses.