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"It was far from just Andrew Tate. It was not those big guns of the manosphere," he says.

South Africa were still packed with big guns and we had just won the Ashes the previous summer.

This is a big change to last winter when big guns stayed silent for most of the day.

Marques Coleman, 14, said he saw the attacker holding a "big gun" just before the shooting began.

And it did not bring out its big guns.