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It can feel like a book out of time, yet it’s literally grounded in millions of years of human history.

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the chaos and coming fight around impoundment of federal grants; the surprise market shakeup around AI and DeepSeek; and talk with Jonathan Rauch about his new book out next week entitled Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy.

“Bet Bolton got a hefty chunk from the DNC and other slimy donors to put the book out,” he wrote in a comment, referring to former-U.S.

“I totally threw the rule book out and tried to put everybody around her in colors so that she still would pop whenever we could have her pop,” Lawson says.

Bob Woodward has a new book out next week—the theme is a whole buncha stuff that happened in the past few years—and, as ever, how accurate are all of his dishy revelations?