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In Lewis’ experience, the thefts tend to ebb and flow, often tied to the release of a desirable new product.

Instead, state supreme courts have repeatedly held that their state equality provisions can, and sometimes do, provide more extensive safeguards, protecting their residents, as the Supreme Court of Vermont explained, “however the philosophy of the United States Supreme Court may ebb and flow.”

"We have seen it ebb and flow. Both sides will be happy with the point in the end."

“The ebb and flow was so important,” Beck notes.

There’s a natural ebb and flow on all of these shows, especially the sports shows, or even our dating shows, which is analogous in certain ways, where some seasons you just have stronger stories than others.