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Although law enforcement called Henley a leader within the Rollin’ 60s, Skipp Townsend, a gang interventionist in L.A., said “there is no leader.”

Townsend, the gang interventionist, agrees that “Bobalouie should be credited” with starting the Pirus.

This is a sharp change from the interventionist conservatism of George W Bush, the most recent Republican president before Trump.

The Pacoima native, an icon in the San Fernando Valley as a muralist and youth interventionist, has known Sandoval for years.

On foreign policy and national security, he’s an interventionist by nature, a stance that is out of step with the “America First” nationalism of Trump’s base.