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"I don't remember him getting annoyed with me like that, but okay," Ben says.

They found out when Minji got a worried message from her mother: "She asked me, 'are you okay?' And I was like 'what happened?'"

“When I initially did the whole thing, when he came for me, the Jordan Peterson interview, that was the most cathartic moment of my entire life by far… And then I was like, okay, whatever.”

“The discussions will continue about who really was behind the murder of John F. Kennedy. There’s always going to be the sense that, okay, these are the official documents. What else might be out there?”

But when confronted with a line, he told himself "that's okay, there's no point queuing. You can come back tomorrow and have a look".