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Dr. Stockmann is clearly identified with Ibsen as an intrepid truth-teller, but one of the playwright’s central tenets is that a writer must “sit in judgment on oneself.”

Maybe so, I replied, but hearing oneself described in unflattering terms was a penance paid in working on oneself.

“It’s so easy to completely tear yourself apart in this moment, to be so down on oneself as part of this whole thing,” she said.

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler discuss a listener’s query about how much importance one should grant “working on oneself.”

“Working on oneself is complicated—you have biases towards what the results would be that are cognitively difficult.”