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You can’t experience true joy and happiness without the contrast of that pain, and maybe people respond to the show the way that they do, with such passion, because in a way it’s like looking in a mirror of society and reminding ourselves of our humanity and really embracing all the different parts of our self.

She goes to great pains to show the way the women in her plays internally manage the fluctuating feasibility of their dreams.

Swift finished the tour’s final show the way she finished every other date: with a run through half a dozen tunes from 2022’s “Midnights,” which is the album that brought her back on the road in the first place after a long stretch away during the pandemic.

“But it’s the women’s titles which are most interesting because they show the way things change and the way television advertising evolves along with it.”

“After Midnight,” which launched in January, gave Tomlinson a chance to be part of another team, and she relishes the fact that it isn’t “her” show the way a traditional late-night program would be.