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Because the question is not asked that way, people don’t feel implicated in it; they don’t think that it goes beyond Can a trans person participate in sports?

And that’s another trope: that every trans person needs surgery.

But when one trans person ends up being sh*tty, that’s when we start having these conversations, and everything’s focused on Gascón and her alone.

Tell me about why you think that movie — which was written and directed by a trans person — is more successful in its depiction of trans identity than something like “Emilia Perez.”

So this movie is a tokenization of a trans person, but it’s not forcing people to reckon with how they actually think and talk about trans people.